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James Lidderdale

Born: February 12, 1786
Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Died: May 15, 1878
Lochbank, Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
 
 
Elizabeth Wright
1745 - 1823
 
 
Elizabeth McKie
 
William Lidderdale
1739 - 8 Feb 1819

Family

Spouse

Jane Hannay

Born:  1791, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Died:  January 18, 1861
Marriage: c1815, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Children
    Sex   Birth   Death
William Halliday Lidderdale   M   September 2, 1815
Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
  December 21, 1896
Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Marion Shaw Lidderdale   F   October 23, 1817
Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
  April 7, 1887
St. Andrew, Midlothian, Scotland
Elizabeth Lidderdale   F   October 11, 1821
Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
  November 2, 1863
Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Jane Lidderdale   F   August 14, 1823
Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
  January 11, 1864
Naples, Italy
Agnes Lidderdale   F   May 25, 1825
Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
  December 10, 1844
Sophia Hannay Lidderdale   F   June 3, 1827
Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
  October 9, 1886
Moffat, Dumfries, Scotland
John Lidderdale   M   May 10, 1829
Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
  June 3, 1858
Melbourne, Australia
Esther Lidderdale   F   April 26, 1831
Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
  January 24, 1879
Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
James Lidderdale   M   March 27, 1833
Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
  March 24, 1915
Farham, Dorset, England
Robert Lidderdale   M   April 16, 1835
Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
  1908
Newton Abbot, Devon, England

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Descendants of James Lidderdale (mid-1500s to present).

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Historical Records

James was the youngest of William of Castlemain's sons, his sister Elizabeth was younger. He married Jane, daughter of James Hannay of the Blairinnie branch of that family, who lived at Lochbank, Castle Douglas. She died 18th January 1861, aged 69. They had ten children.

James was a well known man, whose career filled an obituary of two columns in the local paper. His portrait and that of his wife were painted by his nephew Charles Sillem Lidderdale. They are now owned by the Scotts in New Zealand, descendants of his daughter Marion Shaw Lidderdale.

The obituary mentioned is a fitting memorial, but there is a better, in fewer words, by F.C. Madden, a retired banker, who was a youngster beginning his career in the British Linen Bank when they met.

This is what Madden says (in 1892), from his own knowledge of the man, and what an old Galloway woman had told him some thirty years before, when he was a lad in those parts. It shows how correct was the local tradition of those times. She began by insisting "that James Lidderdale the Solicitor and Hawker (sic) (No doubt she meant a 'writer', Scots for a Solicitor) of Castle Douglas was a representative of the old family which had held St. Mary's Isle and his ancestor had fled to the north of Ireland and that his more immediate progenitor, William of Castle Dykes, had found his way back to the stewartry in reduced circumstances."

"This old gentleman was uncle to the Governor of the Bank of England and a fine specimen of Country Lawyer, sparing but firm and decisive in speech, austere but kindly in his manners, methodical to a fault, not litigeous or given to advise a client to embark on law, prudent, taciturn and retiring, one who held to the even tenour of his ways, courting no man's favour and fearing no man."

"I well recollect the two or three occasions I was privileged to come in contact with him, when a boy in business. He reminded you of the granite of his native stewartry, hard, durable, useful and reliable."

He died with all his faculties unimpaired except for sense deafness.

In the possession of Eustace Henry Lidderdale is a piece of embroidery, framed, showing the Lidderdale arms impaling those of Hannay of Blairinnie. It is a small and beautifully fine piece of work and, what is s important, accurate. The impalement records the marriage of James Lidderdale to Jane, daughter of James Hannay of Lochbank, Castle Douglas.

Perhaps the embroiderers did not know about Marks of Cadency, or omitted them because the exact degree of the marks was unknown for one or both families. But there were no such marks although James Lidderdale was not the head of the family and James Hannay was probably not the head of his. In Nisbet's Book, vol.II is a good drawing of the shield showing the engrailled 'border', as he spells it, which is a complete edging of even small scollops. The ermine, according to the practice then, is shown with many small tails. Nisbet had and still has a European reputation in Armory and we should be proud that our arms are in his book. See Chapter 4 of "Lowland Lairds" by James Ferguson for Nisbet's reputation.

Source: Robert Halliday Lidderdale, An Account of the Lowland Scots Family of Lidderdale, 1950.


Letter from James Lidderdale to son William Halliday Lidderdale dated July 23, 1839, courtesy of Dean Neff, Ohio

Postmark London

23d July 1839
James Lidderdale
to
Wm H.L

Mr. Wm. H. Lidderdale
Castle Douglas

I have received your letter communicating the melancholy news of the severe illness of poor Walter Clarke whose fate I dread ?? this time seated - You must act as Teller in his place till my return - John must sleep in the room above the bank - Be particular about seeing everything properly closed at night - I have written the Bank today - With the assistance of Mr. Miller who I am satisfied will give you every care in his power - I have no doubt every thing will go on well till my return - Yours affectionately

James Lidderdale


James's Lidderdale's accounts from the Almorness/Orchardton Estate (Castle Douglas) for the year 1855-56, showing details of the income and expenditure for the whole estate can be downloaded from:
http://www.kirksyde.freeserve.co.uk/accounts/accounts1.htm


Lidderdale memorial wall at the cemetary at Kelton, Scotland.

Lidderdale memorial wall at Kelton cemetary
Photo courtesy of Della Makinson.
1841 Scotland Census
Dwelling: Lochbank
Census Place: Kelton and Burgh of the Barony of Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbright
General Register Office Reference: 869/00 012/00 015
Name  Age   Sex  Occupation Birthplace
James Lidderdale 55 M Writer Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Jane Lidderdale 50 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
William H. Lidderdale 25 M   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Marion J. Lidderdale 20 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Elizabeth Lidderdale 15 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Jane Lidderdale 15 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Agness Lidderdale 15 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Sophia Lidderdale 14 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
John Lidderdale 12 M   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Esther Lidderdale 10 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
James Lidderdale 8 M   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Robert Lidderdale 6 M   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
1851 Scotland Census
Dwelling: King Street
Census Place: Kelton, Kirkcudbright
General Register Office Reference:
Name Relationship  Age   Sex  Occupation Birthplace
James Lidderdale Head 65 M Writer in Practise Kirkcudt, Kirkcudbright
Jane Lidderdale Wife 60 F   Kirkcudt, Kirkcudbright
William H. Lidderdale Son 35 M   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Elizabeth Lidderdale Daughter 29 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Jane Lidderdale Daughter 27 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Sophia Lidderdale Daughter 23 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Esther Lidderdale Daughter 19 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Francis Lidderdale Nephew 17 M Clerk Merchants Camling House St. Petersburg, Russia
Marry Currie Servant 28 F House Servant Belmadettan, Kirkcudbright
Janet Haining Servant 26 F House Servant Berwick, Kirkcudbright
Mary Johnstone Servant 22 F House Servant Tongland, Kirkcudbright
1861 Scotland Census
Dwelling: Lochbank House
Census Place: Kelton, Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbright
General Register Office Reference: 869/00 004/00 022
Name Relationship  Age   Sex  Occupation Birthplace
James Lidderdale Head 75 M Writer & Agent of N Bank of Scotland Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbtshire
Elizabeth Lidderdale Daughter 39 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Sophia L. Grant Daughter 33 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Esther Lidderdale Daughter 29 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Jane H. Grant Granddaughter 2 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Agnes Bell Servant 20 F Domestic Servant Corlavrill, Dumfriesshire
Jannet Collart Servant 31 F Domestic Servant Urr, Kirkcudbtshire
Agnes McEwan Servant 46 F Domestic Servant Borgue, Kirkcudbtshire
Margt Rae Servant 34 F Domestic Servant Kelton, Kirkcudbtshire
1871 Scotland Census
Dwelling: Lochbank House
Census Place: Kelton, Castle Douglas, Kirkcudbright
General Register Office Reference: 869/00 004/00 015
Name Relationship  Age   Sex  Occupation Birthplace
James Lidderdale Head 85 M Writer Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbright
Sophia H. Grant Daughter 43 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Esther Lidderdale Daughter 39 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Jane H. Grant Granddaughter 12 F   Kelton, Kirkcudbright
Catherine Gillone Servant 19 F General Servant (Domestic) Twynholm, Kirkcudbt
Margaret Paisley Servant 27 F General Servant (Domestic) Balmaclellan, Kirkcudbt
Mary Rae Servant 26 F General Servant (Domestic) Buittle, Kirkcudbt
Margaret Thomson Servant 22 F General Servant (Domestic) Borgue, Kirkcudbt
Church of Latter Day Saints, Genealogical Office (www.familysearch.org)
Birth: James Lidderdale February 2, 1786 Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Death: James Lidderdale 1878 Kelton, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Marriage: James Lidderdale and Jane Hannay c 1815 Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Birth: Jane Hannay 1791 Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Death: Jane Hannay January 18, 1861  

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